By: Randall Richards, Mountain Spirit Media
Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks, the oldest running podcast on Youtube/Internet just sat down with Tucker Carlson. To be clear, the powerful people in the world don’t want this sort of thing happening. Uygur is a classic liberal, and Carlson of the right, (that is if you still buy into the labels). This interview and the Youtube comments sent shivers up my spine because we are starting to see the veil lifted. Whether we have blue hair or not, we’re starting to see we have some big things in common, like anti-war, and, that it’s more important to put some of our differences aside to tackle the big issues. One of those issues, the least of which, is our survival. Here are a few excerpts of Uygur’s opening statement.
Tucker Carlson started the interview by asking,
“Of all the things you could do to infuriate your audience, this is probably at the top of the list. You don’t need to do this. Why are you doing this?”
Cenk Uygur opened with, “There’s a couple of reasons why. Number one, I want to take yes for an answer. You’re anti-war. We’ve been anti-war for 20 years. Carlson Responds, I have not been. So bless you for that. I also want to break down the barriers of Republicans versus Democrats, right wing versus left wing. I think that it’s used to divide us. I think that the powerful already have an incredible elite team. They’re very, very organized, and they do it through donations to the politicians, et cetera. But the American people are not organized. We have built two teams, but those two teams, the Republicans and the Democrats, have been trained to fight each other instead of fighting up. Exactly. When you split the population that way, you take away all of their energy because you have them use their energy against one another rather than against you. It’s actually brilliant.”
Uygur Continued, “It’s done on a meta level in every way. Also, by By the way, on a global level, Christians versus Muslims. Two billion here, two billion there. Make sure you guys are fighting one another. Hey, look at that. We’ve used up all your energy fighting one another and not looking up.”
Then he broached the big one, “Then, of course, the third issue is Israel. That’s what I want to talk to you a lot about today, I hope. I think that that’s an animating issue for a number of reasons, not because it’s the end all be all, but because it is deeply symbolic. Whether it’s Big Pharma or Big Oil or APAC, they are buying our politicians. And so you’re a rare person saying that. I’m a person saying that. And the mainstream media works against us, and they try to shut us up and say, Don’t tell anybody about money in politics. Yes. No, these politicians are honest and honorable people having debates. They’re not having any debates. They’re cashing checks. And so I want all of America to know that. And at the end of the day, Tucker, if we don’t unite as Americans, the powerful are going to rule us forever.”
But he explained, “It’s a difficult one for me because I grew up in a town that was about 50% Jewish, so I have tons of Jewish friends. I have Jewish family. I have a nephew and niece who are Jewish. I don’t want to make people uncomfortable, and I don’t want this to be about the That’s crazy. What I tell people all the time is, Hey, listen, my friend Dave, my friend Jack, Masoud never called him an Asperian. Netanyahu was never like, Hey, should we take 53% of guys? What do you think, Dave? That’s not how it works. Anyone who’s got that intent, I’m not interested in. You’re not going to have me as an ally. It’s not going to work out. I have Jewish family, I have Jewish friends. I’ll never sell them out. I And the other thing about Jewish Americans is they’re Americans, and I believe in a united America. So you’re for America. I love you, and I protect you.”
He went further to explain, “I’m the one trying to stop the killing. I’m for nonviolence. In fact, I’m religiously for nonviolence. If I have any religion at all, it’s nonviolence. My hero is Martin Luther King and Gandhi and Mandela. I say, do not do any violence to anyone. It would be, in fact, if someone is doing violence, they’re against us. You just heard me say it. I say it a thousand times. I love Jewish people. This is not about the Jews. But this country wants us to pay for a genocide. They just don’t want to pay for a genocide. They listen to all that and they go, Now everybody understands that Jake Huber is an anti-Semite who hates Jews and is like an immoral person. If you’re not pro-genocide, you’re anti-Jewish. No, no, no, don’t say that. Don’t say that because you’re actually going to get my Jewish friends hurt. When you say your anti-genocide means you’re anti-Jewish, that equates Judaism with genocide. Don’t, don’t. I don’t know anything that drives up anti-Semitism more than that. But back to the original injustice, and then we’ll get back to more and more gaslighting, because the gaslighting is another perfect symbol of what mainstream media does and establishment media does.”
This is clearly another turning point that brings, what I used to call, the “Global Elite”, down a few notches. There were other clear turning points. Comedy is a clear bellwether, and when Jim Breuer did “Somebody Had to Say It,” we were laughing at the emperor who had no clothes. Of course the recent release of the Epstein files by the US DOJ is another turning point. But if no one is held accountable, I fear for the future of civilization, because really bad people doing really bad things need to held accountable. If they are not, we descend.
Uygur made an stunning analogy of how we’ve been deceived. I won’t include it here, but it’s hard to unknow it once you’ve heard it. I have a feeling it will go done in the history books, that is, if the people win.
The thing that really got to me, in a good way, were the comments about this interview. I’m including some of the more powerful ones here:
– These two are NOT suicidal
– I’m so not a Cenk fan, but this interview has changed my mind. This conversation needed to happen and I learned a lot.
-This is the conversation that the elite have been dreading.
– I swear my eyes have been opened I’ve only ever heard cenk in sound bites and thought he was an imbecile but as of completing this conversation I am shocked and humbled as to how much I agree with this man. What a terrific American who I’m proud to call a fellow countryman.
– Left and Right finding common ground, I dig it.
– Most unexpected crossover of the year award goes to …
– This is what the establishment fears
– Tucker breaking ALL THE RULES! Seriously my frickin hero
– It’s happening guys. The Left and the Right are coming together to diminish the common enemy.
– The unity i am seeing in the comments is so heartening. We need to stop looking left and right at pointless culture war issues, and start looking up.
Lastly, I encourage those in the “Freedom Community” both here, and worldwide, to focus on what we have in common. Were there mistakes made during the past few years? Yes, certainly here in NZ. But any time people come together, we’ll have differences on how we do things, on what we think. After my teaching at Outward Bound for 15 years, the most important thing I came away with is that “We embrace each other not in spite of our difference but because of our diversity.” For more on the subject of building true community, see M Scott Pecks, a Different Drum which was a cornerstone of my teachings at Outward Bound. As I write this, It’s dawning on me that the teachings of OB founder Kurt Hahn, and that of Peck, not to mention Eckhart Tolle, have led me to this point that in order for us to survive as a species, we have to come together. At Outward Bound, the goal wasn’t necessarily to get to the top of the mountain. It was to get to the top as a healthy team of individuals, of a true community. As the Zen saying goes, “If not now, when?”
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